為什么有些人討厭印度人?

Altaf Gul
Why some people hate Indians?
From spending time in western countries, some views westerners and even 2nd generation Indians (born in the west) hold of Indians are due to the following experiences/prejudices:
 
為什么有些人不喜歡印度人？
在西方國(guó)家生活的經(jīng)歷中，西方人甚至在西方國(guó)家出生的第二代印度人對(duì)印度人的看法，往往是基于以下一些經(jīng)歷或偏見：
 
1. Pure Racism - skin colour, different physical appearance etc. In the case of 2nd gen Indians born in the West, this often translates as “self-hate” and they are often the worst perpetrators of hate against “fresh off the boat” Indians. In a recent case a Sikh American verbally abused an immigrant Indian for being “dirty” just because his feet could be seen (presumably he was wearing sandals or flip flops) in a Taco Bell in California.
2. The strong smell of curry (straight after someone has had lunch/dinner) compared to the rather neutral/bland odour of western cuisine - and the after effects such rich food can cause, like involuntary belching in some people. Westerners not used to the food can’t handle it.
 
純粹的種族歧視 ， 比如膚色、外貌的差異等。對(duì)于在西方國(guó)家出生的第二代印度人來說，這常常表現(xiàn)為“自我厭惡”，他們往往是對(duì)那些新移民的印度人表現(xiàn)出最強(qiáng)烈敵意的人。在最近的一個(gè)案例中，一位錫克教的美國(guó)公民在加利福尼亞的一家塔可鐘餐廳里，僅僅因?yàn)橐幻《纫泼竦哪_露在外面（很可能是穿著涼鞋或拖鞋），就對(duì)他進(jìn)行了言語(yǔ)上的侮辱，稱他“臟”。
強(qiáng)烈的咖喱味（尤其是剛吃過午餐或晚餐后），與西方菜肴相比，印度菜肴咖喱的味道更為濃郁，而且吃完后可能會(huì)有一些副作用，比如有些人會(huì)不自覺地打嗝。對(duì)于那些不習(xí)慣這種食物的西方人來說，可能難以接受。
 
3. Excessive use of cheap deodorant which irritates people on public transport.
4. Eating with hands - particularly rice and curry with hands is considered unhygienic, messy and bad manners in the west. But Indians find this method the most enjoyable way of eating and are proud of it.
5. Blatant One-upmanship and showing-off - a trait which seems to be more subtle in westerners.
6.Obsession with academic education while placing less importance on extra curriculars like sport etc. - therefore perceived to produce less rounded individuals and more “techies” / “nerds”, spelling bee winners, chess players etc. less able to think outside of the box…
 
過度使用廉價(jià)除臭劑，在公共交通工具上，這可能會(huì)讓其他乘客感到不適。
用手吃飯 ，在西方文化中，用手吃飯（尤其是吃米飯和咖喱）通常被認(rèn)為是不衛(wèi)生、不整潔和不禮貌的行為。然而，印度人認(rèn)為這是一種最享受的吃飯方式，并且對(duì)此感到自豪。
明顯的攀比和炫耀， 這在西方人中可能表現(xiàn)得更為微妙。
過分重視學(xué)術(shù)教育，而對(duì)課外活動(dòng)（如體育等）不夠重視 ， 因此，人們認(rèn)為這導(dǎo)致人們沒有全面發(fā)展，更多地是“技術(shù)宅”或“書呆子”，比如拼字比賽的冠軍、棋手等，他們可能不太擅長(zhǎng)跳出常規(guī)思維……
 
7. Appear to be arrogant/aggressive/pushy/verbally abusive with service staff like waiters or air hosts. Never say please or thank you to poor Subway sandwich makers - leads to westerners’ view that Indians see retail/food service staff as lower life forms.
8. Caste system.
9. Obsession with over-tutoring kids to get into free magnet high schools in US and free grammar schools in Uk (these are outstanding tax-payer funded free Government schools for academically gifted children whose parents can’t afford or don’t want to pay for private school). Westerners generally prefer a non-tutored approach to allow only naturally gifted kids places at such schools and make it a level playing field. But with Indians over-tutoring and getting kids into such schools who might not be as naturally gifted, westerners feel compelled to tutor as well because their kids might lose out…which costs $$$…which creates animosity.
 
服務(wù)人員，如服務(wù)員或空姐，常常感受到他們的傲慢、攻擊性、強(qiáng)迫性或言語(yǔ)上的侮辱。他們很少對(duì)貧窮的賽百味三明治店的員工說“請(qǐng)”或“謝謝”，這導(dǎo)致西方人認(rèn)為印度人看待零售和餐飲服務(wù)人員如同低等生物。
種姓制度。
過分熱衷于過度輔導(dǎo)孩子，以求他們能進(jìn)入美國(guó)免費(fèi)的磁懸浮高中或英國(guó)免費(fèi)的文法學(xué)校（這些是由納稅人資助的公立學(xué)校，為學(xué)術(shù)上有天賦的孩子提供免費(fèi)教育，這些孩子的父母可能無(wú)力支付或不愿意支付私立學(xué)校的學(xué)費(fèi)）。西方人通常傾向于不輔導(dǎo)，讓真正有天賦的孩子進(jìn)入這些學(xué)校，以保持一個(gè)公平的競(jìng)爭(zhēng)環(huán)境。但是，印度家長(zhǎng)的過度輔導(dǎo)行為，讓可能并非天生有天賦的孩子也進(jìn)入了這些學(xué)校，這迫使西方家長(zhǎng)也不得不開始輔導(dǎo)，以免他們的孩子失去機(jī)會(huì)……這不僅增加了經(jīng)濟(jì)負(fù)擔(dān)……也引發(fā)了敵意。
 
10. Going to the west for higher education as a way to get a passport and then bring over entire family and not integrating with westerners. Some westerners see this as disingenuous.. and even part of an invasion to avenge for the British empire’s rule over India…even though the immigration systems allow it and universities actually encourage it because they just want the $$$
11. Perceived lack of sense of personal space. Like standing too close on public transport or in an elevator for no reason. Usually put down to being from overcrowded cities in India. Images of Indians hanging off commuter trains in Mumbai spring to the mind of the westerner.
 
為了獲得護(hù)照而前往西方接受高等教育，然后不與西方社會(huì)融合，而是將整個(gè)家庭遷移過來。一些西方人認(rèn)為這種做法不真誠(chéng)……甚至覺得這是對(duì)英國(guó)帝國(guó)統(tǒng)治印度的一種報(bào)復(fù)……不過移民系統(tǒng)允許，大學(xué)實(shí)際上也鼓勵(lì)這種行為，因?yàn)樗麄兛粗氐氖墙?jīng)濟(jì)收益。
缺乏個(gè)人空間感。例如，在公共交通工具或電梯里無(wú)故站得很近。這通常被歸咎于他們來自印度擁擠的城市。西方人腦海中會(huì)浮現(xiàn)出孟買通勤火車上印度人懸掛在車外的畫面。
 
12. Snorting/sniffing in public places. While westerners prefer to quickly blow their noses publicly into a handkerchief (which other cultures find disgusting by the way!), they find it strange that Indians often make continuous snorting sounds (and presumably swallow their snot?) especially on public transport rather than blow their nose.
13. overloading in buffet restaurants and airport lounge buffets. Westerners find this rude, Indians see it as getting bang for their buck.
 
在公共場(chǎng)合吸鼻子或嗅鼻子。雖然西方人更傾向于在公共場(chǎng)合用手帕快速擤鼻子（其他文化可能覺得這種做法令人反感），他們發(fā)現(xiàn)印度人經(jīng)常在公共場(chǎng)合（尤其是在公共交通工具上）發(fā)出連續(xù)的吸鼻子聲（可能是在吞咽鼻涕？）而不是擤鼻子。
在自助餐廳和機(jī)場(chǎng)休息室的自助餐中過量取食。西方人認(rèn)為這種行為不禮貌，而印度人則認(rèn)為“花了錢就該有回報(bào)”。
 
14. Fetish with medical and engineering fields. Some westerners have had their kids told by indian kids that they are “thick” or “drop outs” just for studying liberal arts/humanities instead of science and have found this offensive.
15. Blowing the trumpet on the Google and Microsoft CEOs as if these represent all Indians whereas westerners believe that such people are a tiny minority of Indians compared to the huge population. Similarly, blowing the trumpet on politicians who got into office in the US, UK and Ireland rather than giving credit to Western education and democracy. Whereas if you look at their backgrounds, they were all born and educated in the west, in some cases had been settled in East Africa for generations even before the creation of the Indian Republic, and some even hold anti-immigration views accusing Indian immigrants of being the biggest overstay offenders.
 
過分偏好醫(yī)學(xué)和工程領(lǐng)域。一些西方家長(zhǎng)發(fā)現(xiàn)，他們的孩子因?yàn)檫x擇了文科或人文學(xué)科而非科學(xué)領(lǐng)域，就被印度孩子貶低為“笨”或“輟學(xué)”，這讓西方家長(zhǎng)感到被冒犯。
過分強(qiáng)調(diào)谷歌和微軟的印度裔CEO，好像他們代表了所有印度人，而西方人認(rèn)為這些成功人士在印度龐大的人口中只是極少數(shù)。同樣，對(duì)于在美、英、愛爾蘭等國(guó)取得政治職位的印度人，人們往往忽視了西方教育和民主體系的作用，而將其成功歸功于個(gè)人。然而，如果深入了解他們的背景，你會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn)他們都是在西方國(guó)家出生和接受教育的。有些家庭甚至在印度共和國(guó)成立之前就已經(jīng)在東非居住了好幾代。此外，他們中的一些人持有反對(duì)移民的立場(chǎng)，指責(zé)印度移民是最頻繁違反居留期限的人。
 
16. Argumentative and overly stubborn in negotiation, adamant that it’s their way or the highway. This is perceived by westerners as rudely lacking in civil debating etiquette - while Indians pride themselves on being super-sharp negotiators. This is also evident in the difference between current affairs shows on news channels in India and the west. Indian news channels such as the hilarious “WION” are an absolute sh*t show of an advert for journalism.
17. Blatantly ogling at white women. Probably when first arriving in the country. Women get very uncomfortable with the unwelcome attention.
 
在談判中，他們往往表現(xiàn)得好辯且異常固執(zhí)，堅(jiān)決要求按自己的方式行事，否則就拒絕合作。西方人將這種行為視為粗魯，認(rèn)為它缺乏文明辯論的禮節(jié)，而印度人則自豪于自己作為極其敏銳的談判者。這種差異在印度和西方新聞?lì)l道的時(shí)事節(jié)目中也很明顯。例如，印度的新聞?lì)l道“WION”在報(bào)道新聞時(shí)的表現(xiàn)，簡(jiǎn)直就是對(duì)新聞業(yè)的一種諷刺，讓人對(duì)其新聞報(bào)道的質(zhì)量感到質(zhì)疑。
公然注視白人女性，尤其是在剛到一個(gè)新國(guó)家時(shí)，這種不受歡迎的注視讓女性感到非常不舒服。
 
18. Bollywood - is seen as high volume, low quality cinema compared to Hollywood. Often described as “diarrhea”. All the singing and dancing is seen as unnecessary and comedic - as the musical genre pretty much died out in the West a long time ago. Westerners are puzzled why the female singers have such squeaky high pitched voices which sound like screaming babies.
19. Arranged/family-introduced marriage with little or no courtship. Alien concept in the west which died out a long time ago. Some see it as inferior culture because it treats grown people as kids.
 
寶萊塢電影與好萊塢電影相比，常被看作是喧鬧而質(zhì)量不高的影片，有時(shí)甚至被形容為“雜亂無(wú)章”。在西方，音樂劇這一類型早已不再流行，因此寶萊塢電影中常見的歌舞場(chǎng)景被認(rèn)為不必要且?guī)в邢矂∩?。西方觀眾對(duì)于寶萊塢電影中女歌手們尖銳刺耳的高音感到不解，覺得那聽起來像是尖叫的嬰兒。
包辦婚姻或家庭介紹的婚姻，幾乎沒有或完全沒有戀愛過程。在西方，這是一個(gè)陌生的觀念，且早已被淘汰。一些人認(rèn)為這種做法屬于文化上的落后，因?yàn)樗鼘⒊墒斓某赡耆水?dāng)作孩子一樣對(duì)待。
 
20. Westerners find the Indian English accent and often wrong use of grammar difficult to understand and not attractive like some other foreign English accents from Europe. They also find the head shaking/bobbling odd. In a recent much publicized case, a US born Mexican American woman in Texas attacked a group of immigrant Indian American ladies making fun of their accents.
21. Overly nationalistic for country of origin. Many societies are guilty of this - not just Indians. But western perception is that they’re settled in our country so they should tone it down as it’s divisive and comes across as arrogant and disloyal to the host nation.
 
西方人通常覺得印度英語(yǔ)的口音和語(yǔ)法錯(cuò)誤難以理解，而且不像其他一些歐洲國(guó)家的英語(yǔ)口音那樣有魅力。他們還認(rèn)為印度人的搖頭或點(diǎn)頭動(dòng)作很奇怪。在最近一個(gè)備受矚目的事件中，德克薩斯州一位在美國(guó)出生的墨西哥裔美國(guó)女性攻擊了一群印度裔美國(guó)女性，嘲笑她們的口音。
對(duì)原籍國(guó)表現(xiàn)出過度的民族主義情緒。許多社會(huì)都存在這種現(xiàn)象，不僅限于印度人。但西方人的看法是，既然他們?cè)谖覀兊膰?guó)家定居，就應(yīng)該適當(dāng)克制這種情緒，因?yàn)檫^度的民族主義會(huì)引起分裂，給人一種傲慢和對(duì)接納國(guó)不忠的印象。
 
22. Black people find Indians to be racist. Africans who go to India to study have been hurt by their experience of racism. Western black Caribbean people who have gone to India to cheerlead/dance on the sides of Indian cricket league matches alongside white women, have been openly told “no-one wants to see black women here…” and they publicised these inhumane experiences in their home country’s media.
23. The call centre scammers in India have created a bad reputation for Indians abroad. Many innocent and old westerners have been swindled of their retirement savings and now hold this against all Indians. They also feel aggrieved that the Indian authorities don’t crack down on it.
 
黑人群體認(rèn)為印度人存在種族歧視。一些到印度學(xué)習(xí)的非洲學(xué)生曾遭受種族歧視的傷害。一些來自西方加勒比海地區(qū)的黑人，他們?cè)谟《劝迩蚵?lián)賽中與白人女性一起擔(dān)任啦啦隊(duì)或舞蹈表演者，卻遭到了公然的歧視，有人直接對(duì)他們說“這里沒人想看到黑人女性……”。這些人士回國(guó)后，通過本國(guó)媒體公開了這些令人難以忍受的經(jīng)歷。
印度的呼叫中心詐騙行為給海外印度人的形象帶來了負(fù)面影響。許多無(wú)辜的西方老年人的退休金都被騙了，他們因此對(duì)所有印度人產(chǎn)生了負(fù)面看法。同時(shí)，他們對(duì)印度當(dāng)局未能有效打擊此類詐騙行為感到不滿。
 
24. Extreme hate of the British (or “Britishers” as they prefer to call them) for the British Empire’s rule over India, massacres and looting of India’s riches and blaming all their problems on that even though the Brits left 75 years ago. Despite such hate, many Indians still appear overly keen on establishing the English language as the primary language in their homes - particularly with their kids - at the expense of their own languages, and on going for higher education/immigrating to the UK.
 
對(duì)英國(guó)人（或者他們更愿意稱呼的“英國(guó)佬”）抱有極度的厭惡，因?yàn)橛?guó)帝國(guó)曾對(duì)印度進(jìn)行統(tǒng)治、屠殺和掠奪財(cái)富，并且將所有問題都?xì)w咎于這段歷史——盡管英國(guó)已經(jīng)離開印度75年之久。盡管存在這樣的厭惡情緒，許多印度人仍然非常熱衷于將英語(yǔ)作為家庭中的主要交流語(yǔ)言，尤其是在與孩子溝通時(shí)，哪怕這意味著犧牲他們自己的母語(yǔ)。此外，他們還熱衷于前往英國(guó)接受更高等的教育或移民。
 
25. Exposure of feet in inappropriate places. Wearing of sandals/flip flops with jeans/ trousers etc. seems to irk some westerners as unhygienic due to the open display of feet - but is quite normal in Indian culture. Recently a Sikh American went on a verbal tirade against one such feet-exposing Indian immigrant in a Taco Bell in California.
That said some westerners also admire Indians abroad for things like hard work ethic, willing to risk it all in entrepreneurial pursuits (well suited to capitalism) and low violent crime rate - in that sense Indians are sometimes called a “model minority”.
 
在某些不適宜的場(chǎng)合露出腳部，例如穿著牛仔褲或長(zhǎng)褲時(shí)搭配涼鞋或拖鞋，這可能會(huì)讓一些西方人感到不衛(wèi)生，因?yàn)樗麄冋J(rèn)為腳部的直接暴露是不恰當(dāng)?shù)摹谟《任幕?，這樣的穿著卻是司空見慣的。最近，加利福尼亞一家塔可鐘快餐店內(nèi)，一位錫克教的美國(guó)公民就因?yàn)橐晃挥《纫泼衤冻瞿_部而對(duì)其進(jìn)行了激烈的口頭攻擊。
盡管如此，也有一些西方人對(duì)海外印度人的某些特質(zhì)表示欽佩，比如他們勤奮的工作態(tài)度、在創(chuàng)業(yè)追求中敢于冒險(xiǎn)（這非常適合資本主義精神），以及相對(duì)較低的暴力犯罪率。因此，在某些方面，印度人有時(shí)被視為“模范少數(shù)族裔”。
 
Shawn Brun
Why some people hate Indians?
Because many scam people by the masses. Many of them are complete thieves. And I mean MANY. Scamming people has become a large part of their culture. I can say these things without any implied racism because they are true on the most part. Don’t believe me, look into it. You’ll see. I think as long as these people keep scamming their way through everything, awareness of this must climb to combat it. It will make it even harder for them to find the legitimate work that scammers aren’t worthy of. All of this is not just me being stuck in some bubble. It’s no wonder that Google’s CEO is Indian. Google has been committing fraud on people for years. Those years belong to Google’s current CEO who chose money over everyone’s security. Sure, that is just one example, but, you don’t have to look far to finds tons more.
 
為什么有些人對(duì)印度人有負(fù)面看法？
原因在于有相當(dāng)一部分人通過大規(guī)模的欺詐行為來欺騙他人，他們中的許多人簡(jiǎn)直就是徹頭徹尾的騙子。我的意思是這樣的人真的很多。在他們當(dāng)中，欺詐行為已經(jīng)成為文化的一部分。我可以坦率地說出這些觀點(diǎn)，并沒有隱含任何種族歧視，因?yàn)檫@些情況在很大程度上是事實(shí)。如果不相信我的話，你可以去深入調(diào)查，你會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn)確實(shí)如此。我認(rèn)為，只要這些人繼續(xù)通過欺詐手段行事，我們就必須提高警惕，以應(yīng)對(duì)這一問題。這樣做將使他們更難找到那些誠(chéng)實(shí)工作的機(jī)會(huì)，而騙子們是不配擁有這些機(jī)會(huì)的。我所說的這些并非只是我個(gè)人的偏見。谷歌的CEO是印度人，這并不令人意外。谷歌多年來一直在欺騙用戶。這些行為發(fā)生在現(xiàn)任CEO的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)下，他顯然將利潤(rùn)置于用戶安全之上。當(dāng)然，這只是一個(gè)例子，但類似的情況比比皆是，不難找到。
 
Anonymous
Why some people hate Indians?
Because very few cultures or people like arrogance and the promotion of some people being born inherently better than others.
I'm from the US but have traveled globally as well as all over the US itself. I find this to be a theme that is extremely distasteful among Indians both in India and in other countries, including the US.
No human being is inherently more valuable than another. If that is what is ingrained in you from birth, expect push back from more enlightened cultures.
Truth is truth.
 
為什么有些人不喜歡印度人？
因?yàn)楹苌儆形幕蛉巳簳?huì)欣賞傲慢態(tài)度和某些人生來就比其他人更優(yōu)越的理念。
我來自美國(guó)，并且不僅游歷了美國(guó)各地，也走遍了世界其他地方。我發(fā)現(xiàn)，在印度人中，無(wú)論是在印度國(guó)內(nèi)還是在其他國(guó)家，包括美國(guó)，這種態(tài)度都是非常令人反感的。
沒有任何一個(gè)人天生就比其他人更有價(jià)值。如果這種觀念是你從出生起就被灌輸?shù)模敲磥碜愿_明文化的人們自然會(huì)對(duì)此產(chǎn)生抵觸。
事實(shí)就是事實(shí)。