比亞迪在英國推出最便宜的車型，以取代特斯拉成為最大的電動(dòng)汽車制造商
BYD launches cheapest UK model in bid to overtake Tesla as biggest electric carmaker
譯文簡介
“我想知道的是，顯然在中國，一輛車的價(jià)格是6000-7000英鎊，為什么在這里要1.8萬英鎊，呵呵”——《衛(wèi)報(bào)》報(bào)道。
正文翻譯
BYD launches cheapest UK model in bid to overtake Tesla as biggest electric carmaker
-Dolphin Surf will start at ￡18,650 – among the cheapest new vehicles on sale in Britain
比亞迪在英國推出最便宜的車型，以取代特斯拉成為最大的電動(dòng)汽車制造商
——海豚沖浪（海鷗）的起價(jià)為18650英鎊，是英國最便宜的新車之一
(The BYD Dolphin Surf. The Chinese carmaker registered more pure electric cars than Tesla in Europe for the first time in April.)
（比亞迪海豚沖浪。今年4月，這家中國汽車制造商在歐洲注冊的純電動(dòng)汽車數(shù)量首次超過了特斯拉。）
新聞：
The Chinese manufacturer BYD has launched its cheapest model in the UK, in the latest stage of its efforts to overtake Tesla as the world’s biggest electric carmaker.
中國汽車制造商比亞迪在英國推出了其最便宜的車型，這是該公司欲超越特斯拉成為全球最大電動(dòng)汽車制造商的最新努力。
The Dolphin Surf will start at ￡18,650, a price that puts it among the cheapest new vehicles on sale in Britain.
海豚沖浪起價(jià)為18650英鎊，是英國市場上最便宜的新車之一。
BYD is vying with American rival Tesla, run by Elon Musk, for the crown of world’s biggest battery carmaker, although BYD already beats Tesla when including figures for hybrid cars, which combine a battery with a petrol engine.
比亞迪正在與埃隆·馬斯克領(lǐng)導(dǎo)的美國競爭對手特斯拉爭奪世界最大電池汽車制造商的桂冠，盡管比亞迪在混合動(dòng)力汽車（將電池與汽油發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)結(jié)合在一起）方面的數(shù)據(jù)已經(jīng)超過了特斯拉。
The Chinese carmaker registered more pure electric cars than Tesla in Europe for the first time in April. Tesla just about remained the biggest seller of EVs globally in 2024.
今年4月，這家中國汽車制造商在歐洲注冊的純電動(dòng)汽車數(shù)量首次超過了特斯拉。到2024年，特斯拉幾乎仍然是全球最大的電動(dòng)汽車銷售商。
Tesla has since been hit by a backlash over Musk’s role in Donald Trump’s administration. Registrations for new Teslas in Europe halved in April compared with the same month a year earlier. Musk remains the world’s richest man, worth more than $400bn (￡295bn), according to Forbes.
此后，特斯拉因馬斯克在唐納德·特朗普政府中所扮演的角色而受到強(qiáng)烈反對。今年4月，歐洲新特斯拉的注冊量與去年同期相比減少了一半。據(jù)《福布斯》報(bào)道，馬斯克仍然是世界上最富有的人，身價(jià)超過4000億美元（2950億英鎊）。
Electric cars are already much cheaper to own than their petrol equivalents for most people, but the arrival of smaller models with a comparable sticker price to fossil fuel cars is seen as important in persuading lower-income buyers.
對大多數(shù)人來說，保有電動(dòng)汽車已經(jīng)比保有汽油車便宜得多，但價(jià)格與化石燃料汽車相當(dāng)?shù)男⌒蛙囆偷某霈F(xiàn)，被視為說服低收入買家的重要因素。
Analysts suggest that BYD has a lot of room to cut the price of the Dolphin Surf further. The company sells a near-identical model under the Seagull name in China for about ￡6,000, although Chinese safety regulations are significantly less onerous.
分析師認(rèn)為，比亞迪有很大的空間進(jìn)一步降低海豚沖浪的價(jià)格。該公司在中國以海鷗的名義銷售一款幾乎相同的車型，售價(jià)約為6000英鎊，盡管中國的安全法規(guī)要寬松得多。
The company’s European growth has come despite the EU imposing 17.4% tariffs on BYD on the grounds of allegedly unfair state aid from China.
盡管歐盟以中國提供不公平的政府補(bǔ)貼為由，對比亞迪征收了17.4%的關(guān)稅，但比亞迪在歐洲的增長仍在繼續(xù)。
In contrast, the UK has not added tariffs on Chinese electric cars, and has therefore been the biggest target market for Chinese brands. BYD sells through a network of dealerships across Britain.
相比之下，英國沒有對中國電動(dòng)汽車加征關(guān)稅，因此一直是中國品牌的最大目標(biāo)市場。比亞迪通過遍布英國的經(jīng)銷商網(wǎng)絡(luò)進(jìn)行銷售。
The UK accounted for 30% of all Chinese electric models sold in Europe in March, according to Matthias Schmidt, an electric vehicle analyst, with brands like Xpeng, Leapmotor and Jaecoo, owned by state-controlled Chery also trying to win market share.
據(jù)電動(dòng)汽車分析師馬蒂亞斯·施密特稱，今年3月，在歐洲銷售的中國電動(dòng)汽車中，英國占了30%。小鵬、零跑和中國國有企業(yè)奇瑞旗下的Jaecoo等品牌也在努力贏得市場份額。
Schmidt has cautioned against writing off European carmakers, which already have several smaller cars on sale, and more on the way. The cheapest electric car on sale in the UK is the Dacia Spring, which costs ￡14,995, although its official range is only 140 miles. The Citro?n ?-C3 starts at ￡18,305, while Renault’s well-received 5 model starts at ￡22,995.
施密特警告說，歐洲汽車制造商已經(jīng)有幾款小型車在售，而且還在銷售中。在英國銷售的最便宜的電動(dòng)汽車是Dacia Spring，售價(jià)14995英鎊，盡管它的官方續(xù)航里程只有140英里。Citro?n ?-C3起價(jià)18305英鎊，而雷諾廣受歡迎的5型起價(jià)22995英鎊。
The Dolphin Surf has an official range of up to 137 miles, but also has some features that are generally found on more expensive models, such as a rotating touchscreen and driver assistance functions like intelligent cruise control and automatic emergency braking.
海豚沖浪的官方續(xù)航里程最高可達(dá)137英里，但它也有一些在更昂貴的車型上常見的功能，比如旋轉(zhuǎn)觸摸屏和智能巡航控制和自動(dòng)緊急制動(dòng)等駕駛員輔助功能。
BYD has taken a deliberate decision to offer much of the same technology on lower-end models as are found in its premium vehicles, in an effort to drive down the cost of sensors and software while maintaining its lead over rivals.
比亞迪經(jīng)過深思熟慮，決定在低端車型上提供與高端車型大致相同的技術(shù)，降低傳感器和軟件的成本，同時(shí)保持對競爭對手的領(lǐng)先優(yōu)勢。
The Surf uses BYD’s Blade battery, which relies on lithium iron phosphate (LFP) for its cathode. LFP batteries are made from cheaper materials than lithium batteries that use more expensive nickel, manganese and cobalt (NMC) – although the latter offer better performance such as longer range.
海豚沖浪使用比亞迪的刀片電池，該電池的陰極依賴于磷酸鐵鋰。磷酸鐵鋰電池的材料比鋰電池便宜，鋰電池使用更昂貴的鎳、錳和鈷，盡管后者提供更好的性能，比如更長的續(xù)航里程。
While carmakers in Europe have until now mostly focused on NMC batteries to help assuage range anxiety among early adopters, LFP batteries have proved to be hugely popular among Chinese buyers looking for a cheaper upfront cost. More than 80% of electric cars sold in China in 2024 used LFP batteries, according to data cited by Kallanish Commodities, an industry news provider.
到目前為止，歐洲汽車制造商主要專注于鎳錳鈷酸鹽電池，以幫助緩解早期用戶的續(xù)航里程焦慮，但事實(shí)證明，磷酸鐵鋰電池在尋求更低前期成本的中國買家中非常受歡迎。行業(yè)新聞提供商Kallanish Commodities援引的數(shù)據(jù)顯示，2024年在中國銷售的電動(dòng)汽車中，超過80%使用的是磷酸鐵鋰電池。
BYD’s main Chinese battery rival, Contemporary Amperex Technology Co Limited (Catl), has also invested heavily in LFP technology in the race to dominate the global electric vehicle industry. Both companies are also competing to offer full recharging in minutes.
比亞迪在中國的主要電池競爭對手寧德時(shí)代科技有限公司也在磷酸鐵鋰技術(shù)上投入了大量資金，以主導(dǎo)全球電動(dòng)汽車行業(yè)。兩家公司還在競爭提供幾分鐘內(nèi)充滿電的服務(wù)。
-Dolphin Surf will start at ￡18,650 – among the cheapest new vehicles on sale in Britain
比亞迪在英國推出最便宜的車型，以取代特斯拉成為最大的電動(dòng)汽車制造商
——海豚沖浪（海鷗）的起價(jià)為18650英鎊，是英國最便宜的新車之一
(The BYD Dolphin Surf. The Chinese carmaker registered more pure electric cars than Tesla in Europe for the first time in April.)
（比亞迪海豚沖浪。今年4月，這家中國汽車制造商在歐洲注冊的純電動(dòng)汽車數(shù)量首次超過了特斯拉。）
新聞：
The Chinese manufacturer BYD has launched its cheapest model in the UK, in the latest stage of its efforts to overtake Tesla as the world’s biggest electric carmaker.
中國汽車制造商比亞迪在英國推出了其最便宜的車型，這是該公司欲超越特斯拉成為全球最大電動(dòng)汽車制造商的最新努力。
The Dolphin Surf will start at ￡18,650, a price that puts it among the cheapest new vehicles on sale in Britain.
海豚沖浪起價(jià)為18650英鎊，是英國市場上最便宜的新車之一。
BYD is vying with American rival Tesla, run by Elon Musk, for the crown of world’s biggest battery carmaker, although BYD already beats Tesla when including figures for hybrid cars, which combine a battery with a petrol engine.
比亞迪正在與埃隆·馬斯克領(lǐng)導(dǎo)的美國競爭對手特斯拉爭奪世界最大電池汽車制造商的桂冠，盡管比亞迪在混合動(dòng)力汽車（將電池與汽油發(fā)動(dòng)機(jī)結(jié)合在一起）方面的數(shù)據(jù)已經(jīng)超過了特斯拉。
The Chinese carmaker registered more pure electric cars than Tesla in Europe for the first time in April. Tesla just about remained the biggest seller of EVs globally in 2024.
今年4月，這家中國汽車制造商在歐洲注冊的純電動(dòng)汽車數(shù)量首次超過了特斯拉。到2024年，特斯拉幾乎仍然是全球最大的電動(dòng)汽車銷售商。
Tesla has since been hit by a backlash over Musk’s role in Donald Trump’s administration. Registrations for new Teslas in Europe halved in April compared with the same month a year earlier. Musk remains the world’s richest man, worth more than $400bn (￡295bn), according to Forbes.
此后，特斯拉因馬斯克在唐納德·特朗普政府中所扮演的角色而受到強(qiáng)烈反對。今年4月，歐洲新特斯拉的注冊量與去年同期相比減少了一半。據(jù)《福布斯》報(bào)道，馬斯克仍然是世界上最富有的人，身價(jià)超過4000億美元（2950億英鎊）。
Electric cars are already much cheaper to own than their petrol equivalents for most people, but the arrival of smaller models with a comparable sticker price to fossil fuel cars is seen as important in persuading lower-income buyers.
對大多數(shù)人來說，保有電動(dòng)汽車已經(jīng)比保有汽油車便宜得多，但價(jià)格與化石燃料汽車相當(dāng)?shù)男⌒蛙囆偷某霈F(xiàn)，被視為說服低收入買家的重要因素。
Analysts suggest that BYD has a lot of room to cut the price of the Dolphin Surf further. The company sells a near-identical model under the Seagull name in China for about ￡6,000, although Chinese safety regulations are significantly less onerous.
分析師認(rèn)為，比亞迪有很大的空間進(jìn)一步降低海豚沖浪的價(jià)格。該公司在中國以海鷗的名義銷售一款幾乎相同的車型，售價(jià)約為6000英鎊，盡管中國的安全法規(guī)要寬松得多。
The company’s European growth has come despite the EU imposing 17.4% tariffs on BYD on the grounds of allegedly unfair state aid from China.
盡管歐盟以中國提供不公平的政府補(bǔ)貼為由，對比亞迪征收了17.4%的關(guān)稅，但比亞迪在歐洲的增長仍在繼續(xù)。
In contrast, the UK has not added tariffs on Chinese electric cars, and has therefore been the biggest target market for Chinese brands. BYD sells through a network of dealerships across Britain.
相比之下，英國沒有對中國電動(dòng)汽車加征關(guān)稅，因此一直是中國品牌的最大目標(biāo)市場。比亞迪通過遍布英國的經(jīng)銷商網(wǎng)絡(luò)進(jìn)行銷售。
The UK accounted for 30% of all Chinese electric models sold in Europe in March, according to Matthias Schmidt, an electric vehicle analyst, with brands like Xpeng, Leapmotor and Jaecoo, owned by state-controlled Chery also trying to win market share.
據(jù)電動(dòng)汽車分析師馬蒂亞斯·施密特稱，今年3月，在歐洲銷售的中國電動(dòng)汽車中，英國占了30%。小鵬、零跑和中國國有企業(yè)奇瑞旗下的Jaecoo等品牌也在努力贏得市場份額。
Schmidt has cautioned against writing off European carmakers, which already have several smaller cars on sale, and more on the way. The cheapest electric car on sale in the UK is the Dacia Spring, which costs ￡14,995, although its official range is only 140 miles. The Citro?n ?-C3 starts at ￡18,305, while Renault’s well-received 5 model starts at ￡22,995.
施密特警告說，歐洲汽車制造商已經(jīng)有幾款小型車在售，而且還在銷售中。在英國銷售的最便宜的電動(dòng)汽車是Dacia Spring，售價(jià)14995英鎊，盡管它的官方續(xù)航里程只有140英里。Citro?n ?-C3起價(jià)18305英鎊，而雷諾廣受歡迎的5型起價(jià)22995英鎊。
The Dolphin Surf has an official range of up to 137 miles, but also has some features that are generally found on more expensive models, such as a rotating touchscreen and driver assistance functions like intelligent cruise control and automatic emergency braking.
海豚沖浪的官方續(xù)航里程最高可達(dá)137英里，但它也有一些在更昂貴的車型上常見的功能，比如旋轉(zhuǎn)觸摸屏和智能巡航控制和自動(dòng)緊急制動(dòng)等駕駛員輔助功能。
BYD has taken a deliberate decision to offer much of the same technology on lower-end models as are found in its premium vehicles, in an effort to drive down the cost of sensors and software while maintaining its lead over rivals.
比亞迪經(jīng)過深思熟慮，決定在低端車型上提供與高端車型大致相同的技術(shù)，降低傳感器和軟件的成本，同時(shí)保持對競爭對手的領(lǐng)先優(yōu)勢。
The Surf uses BYD’s Blade battery, which relies on lithium iron phosphate (LFP) for its cathode. LFP batteries are made from cheaper materials than lithium batteries that use more expensive nickel, manganese and cobalt (NMC) – although the latter offer better performance such as longer range.
海豚沖浪使用比亞迪的刀片電池，該電池的陰極依賴于磷酸鐵鋰。磷酸鐵鋰電池的材料比鋰電池便宜，鋰電池使用更昂貴的鎳、錳和鈷，盡管后者提供更好的性能，比如更長的續(xù)航里程。
While carmakers in Europe have until now mostly focused on NMC batteries to help assuage range anxiety among early adopters, LFP batteries have proved to be hugely popular among Chinese buyers looking for a cheaper upfront cost. More than 80% of electric cars sold in China in 2024 used LFP batteries, according to data cited by Kallanish Commodities, an industry news provider.
到目前為止，歐洲汽車制造商主要專注于鎳錳鈷酸鹽電池，以幫助緩解早期用戶的續(xù)航里程焦慮，但事實(shí)證明，磷酸鐵鋰電池在尋求更低前期成本的中國買家中非常受歡迎。行業(yè)新聞提供商Kallanish Commodities援引的數(shù)據(jù)顯示，2024年在中國銷售的電動(dòng)汽車中，超過80%使用的是磷酸鐵鋰電池。
BYD’s main Chinese battery rival, Contemporary Amperex Technology Co Limited (Catl), has also invested heavily in LFP technology in the race to dominate the global electric vehicle industry. Both companies are also competing to offer full recharging in minutes.
比亞迪在中國的主要電池競爭對手寧德時(shí)代科技有限公司也在磷酸鐵鋰技術(shù)上投入了大量資金，以主導(dǎo)全球電動(dòng)汽車行業(yè)。兩家公司還在競爭提供幾分鐘內(nèi)充滿電的服務(wù)。
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The Chinese manufacturer BYD has launched its cheapest model in the UK, in the latest stage of its efforts to overtake Tesla as the world’s biggest electric carmaker.
But can they stop the owner from doing Hitler salutes? That is the crux of the matter.
“中國汽車制造商比亞迪在英國推出了其最便宜的車型，這是該公司欲超越特斯拉成為全球最大電動(dòng)汽車制造商的最新努力”
但他們能阻止老板行希特勒禮嗎？這才是問題的關(guān)鍵。
ghrrrrowl
BYD has already become the world’s largest maker of EVs when you count its Plug In hybrid vehicles.
如果算上插電式混合動(dòng)力汽車，比亞迪已經(jīng)成為了全球最大的電動(dòng)汽車制造商。
GimmeSomeSugar
There are several metrics (admittedly overlapping);
Don't be the worst on safety standards, and you'll be beating Tesla.
Don't be the worst on customer satisfaction, and you'll be beating Tesla.
Interestingly, you could manufacture a car that's the cheapest EV you can buy and has a commensurate build quality, and still have a good chance at beating Tesla on that metric as well.
有幾個(gè)指標(biāo)（不可否認(rèn)是重疊的）；
不要在安全標(biāo)準(zhǔn)上做得最差，這樣你就能打敗特斯拉。
不要在客戶滿意度上做最差的，這樣你就能打敗特斯拉。
有意思的是，你可以制造出一輛你能買到的最便宜的電動(dòng)汽車，并且具有相應(yīng)的制造質(zhì)量，并且仍然有很大的機(jī)會(huì)在這個(gè)指標(biāo)上擊敗特斯拉。
Mutarlay
The UK used car market is among the best in the world. You can get a shit ton of car for less than ￡15k with better features and reliability than the base spec new cars that people are financing.
And pre-owned EV’s are proving to be reliable. People are still stuck in a mindset from 10yrs ago that EV batteries will be degraded heavily after 10yrs. It’s a myth. You can get a decent used Tesla Model 3 for less than ￡15k. I don’t even like Tesla’s that much but for that money it’s quite hard to ignore.
英國二手車市場是世界上最好的市場之一。你可以花不到1.5萬英鎊買到一輛性能和可靠性都比人們購買的基本規(guī)格新車更好的車。
二手電動(dòng)汽車被證明是可靠的。人們?nèi)匀煌Ａ粼?0年前的思維模式中，認(rèn)為電動(dòng)汽車電池在10年后會(huì)嚴(yán)重退化。這是一個(gè)神話。你可以花不到1.5萬英鎊買到一輛不錯(cuò)的二手特斯拉Model 3。我甚至都不怎么喜歡特斯拉的車，但這個(gè)價(jià)格，讓它很難被忽視。
HaashGnash
Problem is the small chance that you do need to change the batteries it will cost you ￡10k to ￡20k. its a huge amount and theres no way to repair them like you can with parts of a combustion engine.
Plus Tesla used to be be ranked very low for reliability so you definitely wouldn't want an older model. No major issues with batteries, but everything else.
問題在于你有較低的可能性需要更換電池，這將花費(fèi)你1萬到2萬英鎊。這是一個(gè)巨大的數(shù)字，沒有辦法像修理內(nèi)燃機(jī)的零件那樣修理它們。
另外，特斯拉過去在可靠性方面排名很低，所以你肯定不會(huì)想要一輛老款的。電池沒有大問題，但其他方面都有問題。
Mutarlay
Yeah there is the chance of complete battery failure but I wouldn’t say it happens often enough that it needs to be a concern. Some EVs like the Nissan Leaf have modules in the battery that can be replaced instead of the whole battery. I doubt you can do this for higher end EV batteries though.
And yeah Tesla’s were built like shite. It’s the main reason I don’t like them.
是的，電池完全失效是有可能的，但我不會(huì)說這種情況經(jīng)常發(fā)生，所以需要引起關(guān)注。日產(chǎn)Leaf等電動(dòng)汽車的電池中有可以更換的模塊，而不是整個(gè)電池。不過，我懷疑高端電動(dòng)汽車電池能否做到這一點(diǎn)。
沒錯(cuò)，特斯拉造得像屎一樣。這是我不喜歡它們的主要原因。
Secure_Tip2163
Module replacement on Leads still cost thousands, much more than they are worth as a vehicle, also replacing modules doesn't guarantee the battery will function as before, you'll likely still experience sudden power drop. They're wonderful vehicles but criminally awful batteries.
在引線上更換模塊仍然要花費(fèi)數(shù)千美元，遠(yuǎn)遠(yuǎn)超過它們作為車輛的價(jià)值，而且更換模塊并不能保證電池會(huì)像以前一樣工作，你可能仍然會(huì)遇到突然的電量下降。它們是很棒的交通工具，但電池太垃圾了。
Elegant_Accident2035
I've had my car 20 years, from new, paid cash, no reason to change or upgrade. Getting on in years myself so I don't know if I'll ever go electric.
Anyway, I've been saying for a while, someone needs to produce the EV equivalent to the mini in the 60s. Low cost, no frills, gets people started. Yes the battery will be the most expensive part but do we really need 20 cameras and connection to an ap on our phones to control the a/c?
I haven't looked at the BYD range or prices but maybe they can tick enough boxes to become the new mini.
我的車已經(jīng)用了20年了，從新車用到現(xiàn)在，現(xiàn)金支付的，沒有理由更換或升級(jí)。我自己也上了年紀(jì)，所以我不知道我是否會(huì)用電動(dòng)汽車。
不管怎樣，我一直在說，有人需要生產(chǎn)相當(dāng)于60年代迷你車的電動(dòng)汽車。低成本，沒有多余的裝飾，以讓人們開始（轉(zhuǎn)向它們）。是的，電池將是最昂貴的部分，但我們真的需要20個(gè)攝像頭，和連接到手機(jī)上的app來控制空調(diào)嗎？
我還沒有看過比亞迪的車型系列或價(jià)格，但也許它們能滿足足夠多的條件，成為新款迷你車。
Marcos_Narcos
The UK has probably one of the best and cheapest used car markets anywhere on Earth.
英國可能是世界上最好、最便宜的二手車市場之一。
Forsaken-Original-28
Hopefully this encourages other manufacturers to drive down prices as well
希望這也能鼓勵(lì)其他制造商降低價(jià)格
adammx125
They’re being subsidised by the Chinese government to be able to overproduce and under price cars specifically with the goal of dominating the market by undercutting western competition in ways they’re unable to compete with. Amnesty recently did a report on car manufacturers and found that BYD effectively is akin to slavery at its factories. They’re suing people who post negative opinions.
Other manufacturers are unable to produce cars this cheap because of the unethical practices and tremendous initial losses it would require.
他們正在被中國政府補(bǔ)貼，以便能夠過度生產(chǎn)和低價(jià)生產(chǎn)汽車，特別是通過以西方無法競爭的方式削弱西方對手來主導(dǎo)市場。Amnesty最近做了一份關(guān)于汽車制造商的報(bào)告，發(fā)現(xiàn)比亞迪的工廠實(shí)際上就像奴隸一樣。他們還起訴那些發(fā)表負(fù)面評(píng)論的人。
由于不道德的做法和巨大的初始損失，其他制造商無法生產(chǎn)這么便宜的汽車。
thepotofpine
What I'm wondering is apparently in China the car costs like ￡6-7k, why does it cost 18k here lol
我想知道的是，顯然在中國，一輛車的價(jià)格是6000-7000英鎊，為什么在這里要1.8萬英鎊，呵呵
FeynmansWitt
Shipping and VAT. Also BYD wants to make a profit abroad. All EVs are cheaper in China so they can't compete without also being cheap.
因?yàn)檫\(yùn)費(fèi)和增值稅。此外，比亞迪還希望在海外盈利。所有的電動(dòng)汽車在中國都更便宜，所以如果不便宜，它們就無法競爭。
BarnabusTheBold
They’re being subsidised by the Chinese government
The same as all car manufacturers then. The same as most companies then.
Subsidies discourse is really really stupid. the welfare state is a state-wide subsidy to businesses, but nobody would consider it so.
Current eu tariffs on Chinese EVs massively overestimate the level of subsidies, because they don't have to be accurate and it's mostly political in nature.
Even with those excessive tariffs..... they still make a huge profit. Welcoime to efficient supply chains and vertical integration. Welcome to a mature EV market that's been subject to extreme competition for years.
“他們正在被中國政府補(bǔ)貼”
所有的汽車制造商都是如此。大多數(shù)公司也一樣。
補(bǔ)貼言論真的非常愚蠢。福利國家制度就是全國范圍內(nèi)對企業(yè)的補(bǔ)貼，但沒有人會(huì)這么認(rèn)為。
目前歐盟對中國電動(dòng)汽車征收的關(guān)稅大大高估了補(bǔ)貼水平，因?yàn)樗鼈儾恍枰獪?zhǔn)確，而且本質(zhì)上主要是政治性的。
即使有那些過高的關(guān)稅……他們的車企仍然賺取巨額利潤。歡迎高效的供應(yīng)鏈和垂直整合。歡迎來到一個(gè)多年來一直處于激烈競爭之中的成熟的電動(dòng)汽車市場。
DaddaMongo
Seeing a lot of "I'm not buying Chinese" here. Do you folks realise that China mines about 90% of all the rare earth materials used in the manufacture of electric motors on the entire planet? What this means is that even if you were to buy a completely British electric car (not that they exist) you will still be using Chinese materials. That's not even mentioning battery manufacturing.
看到很多人說“我不買中國貨”。你們有沒有意識(shí)到中國開采了全世界90%的用于制造電動(dòng)機(jī)的稀土材料？這意味著，即使你買了一輛完全英國造的電動(dòng)汽車（不是說真有這種車），你仍然會(huì)使用中國的材料。這還沒有提到電池制造業(yè)。
Beer-MilkshakesBlack Country
The vast majority of semiconductors came from China up to 3 years ago. COVID changed that a bit but everyone was happy to buy electronics from China and stuff in their cars on the assembly line.
直到3年前，絕大多數(shù)半導(dǎo)體都來自中國。疫情稍微改變了這一點(diǎn)，但每個(gè)人都很樂意從中國購買電子產(chǎn)品，以及他們裝配線上汽車?yán)锏牟考?br />
AutoPanda1096
Ok but China isn't the only place these materials can be sourced. Buy from somewhere that doesn't source from China.
It's 90% because people buy from there.
Buy from somewhere else and it won't be.
Come on, don't be so defeatist in your thinking!
好吧，但中國不是唯一可以獲得這些材料的地方。從不從中國采購的地方購買。
90%只是因?yàn)槿藗儸F(xiàn)在從那里買東西。
從別的地方買就不會(huì)有90%了。
得了吧，你的想法不要那么悲觀！
TBagCentre
BYD will get bigger. All their shit is in house, meaning very little sourcing apart from some leather for the seats of certain models. Profits will be huge. They will be the main player in a few countries soon. Mark my words.
比亞迪將變得更大。他們所有的東西都是自產(chǎn)的，這意味著很少對外采購，除了一些為某些車型的座椅使用的皮革。利潤將是巨大的。他們很快就會(huì)在一些國家成為主要玩家。記住我的話。
Burntarchitect
It's amusing how this comes up in my Reddit feed directly after footage of a bridge collapse in Guizhou.
很有意思的是，在貴州一座橋倒塌的視頻之后，我的紅迪推送頁上就出現(xiàn)了這個(gè)話題。
londons_explorerLondon
That bridge will be rebuilt before the UK government gets round to doing a consultation on what to do about the results on the last consultation about what colour wheelie bins should be in 2029.
I prefer 'gets shit done' government over paralyzed by incompetence government.
那座橋?qū)⒃谟槌鰰r(shí)間就如何處理2029年輪式垃圾箱應(yīng)該是什么顏色的最后一次咨詢結(jié)果進(jìn)行咨詢之前重新建好。
我更喜歡“做事”的政府，而不是被無能的政府癱瘓。
PurahsHero
But I have been told that CHINA BAD and therefore we should not buy their EVs. I mean, they are better quality, cheaper, and more reliable than most other EVs. But, you know, China.
但我被告知“中國壞”，因此我們不應(yīng)該購買他們的電動(dòng)汽車。我的意思是，它們比大多數(shù)其他電動(dòng)汽車質(zhì)量更好、更便宜、更可靠。但是，你懂的，中國。
Broccoli--Enthusiast
The reason they are cheaper is the reason they are bad
Slave labour and selling at losses to undercut the markets. They will kill all competition then send prices to the moon, standard tactic, hopefully they go bust first.
他們便宜的原因正是他們壞的原因
奴隸勞動(dòng)和虧本出售以削弱市場。他們會(huì)扼殺所有競爭，然后再把價(jià)格提到月球的高度，這是標(biāo)準(zhǔn)策略，希望他們先破產(chǎn)。
KingCOVID_19
Cars are built by robots these days, dude. Have you ever seen what a production line looks like?
Having slave labour in a mass production car factory would literally be too inefficient.
現(xiàn)在的車都是機(jī)器人造的，伙計(jì)。你見過生產(chǎn)線是什么樣子嗎？在大規(guī)模生產(chǎn)的汽車工廠里雇傭奴隸勞工真的會(huì)效率很低。
Hour-Alternative-625
China covered their entire country in high speed rail in the same time that it took this shit hole to even get half of a single line done. Hilarious to read these completely braindead takes about China, propaganda really does work very well.
中國用高鐵覆蓋了整個(gè)國家，而相同的時(shí)間里這個(gè)狗屎坑卻只修了一條線路的一半。讀這些關(guān)于中國的完全無腦的（抹黑）文章真是太搞笑了，宣傳真的很有效。