《超人》在中國預(yù)計最終總票房為1000萬美元。被人看好結(jié)果卻在中國票房失敗，引起外國網(wǎng)友熱議

AGOTFAN
likes: 189
Comparison:
Thunderbolts* grossed $16 million
Captain America Brave New World grossed $14 million
 
對比：
《雷霆特工隊*》總票房1600萬美元
《美國隊長：美麗新世界》總票房1400萬美元
 
No_Public_7677
likes: 53
Damn
 
我去。
 
Puzzleheaded_Book697
likes: 78
Damn this movie is going to flatline internationally, it’s going to need crazy domestic legs like 400 M to have a chance. Crazy how people were saying this would be a billion dollar film and it can’t even do Man of steel numbers, that movie made 63 million in China over 10 years ago
 
我去，這部電影的海外票房要完蛋了，它得靠本土市場爆發(fā)出4億美元那樣的超強后勁才有可能回本。真是瘋狂，之前還有人說這會是部十億美元的電影，結(jié)果它連《超人：鋼鐵之軀》的水平都達不到，那部電影可是十多年前就在中國拿下了6300萬美元的票房啊。
 
orange_falcon
likes: 94
China is a whole different ball game today. Chinese movie consumption habits have changed massively over the past 10 years. 10 years ago, their local industry was nowhere near Hollywood in terms of tech output. That has changed now. They actively pursue local cinema and shun Hollywood. Also add anti American sentiment to the mix.
That said, other Asian markets have also shown a level of apathy to Superman that I did not see coming.
 
如今的中國市場已經(jīng)完全是另一回事了。過去十年，中國觀眾的電影消費習(xí)慣發(fā)生了巨大變化。十年前，他們的本土電影產(chǎn)業(yè)在技術(shù)水平上還遠不及好萊塢。但現(xiàn)在情況變了，他們積極追捧國產(chǎn)電影，對好萊塢電影則敬而遠之。再加上反美情緒的因素。
話雖如此，其他亞洲市場對《超人》也表現(xiàn)出一種我始料未及的冷漠。
 
fastcooljosh
likes: 11
With the exception of Avatar 3 which will most likely do 200+ million first week later this year.
 
《阿凡達3》是個例外，它今年晚些時候上映時，首周票房很可能會超過2億美元。
 
GarlVinland4Astrea
likes: 10
China is not the same as it was for films back in 2013. Aside from a sext few films, they've generally been rejecting big Hollywood blockbusters for their own homegrown products. The early 2010's were a nice entrance for major big budget films in that market, but now they want to make their own money and their people are showing more interest in on the whole supporting their own national products.
 
現(xiàn)在的中國電影市場和2013年時已經(jīng)不一樣了。除少數(shù)幾部電影外，他們基本上都在排斥好萊塢大片，轉(zhuǎn)而支持自己的本土作品。2010年代初，好萊塢大制作電影在中國市場有過一段不錯的時光，但現(xiàn)在他們想賺自己的錢，他們的民眾也整體上更愿意支持國產(chǎn)作品。
 
alcatraz1286
likes: 0
because it's not a good film and james gunn is not a good filmmaker
 
因為它不是一部好電影，詹姆斯·古恩也不是一個好導(dǎo)演。
 
GarlVinland4Astrea
likes: -6
Reviews and audience reception say otherwise.
 
影評和觀眾口碑可不是這么說的。
 
Iagp
likes: 20
American Reviews and American audiences. They don't mattet crap for the rest of the world
 
美國影評和美國觀眾罷了。對世界其他地方來說，他們說的屁都不算。
 
GarlVinland4Astrea
likes: -8
It doesn't have bad reviews in the rest of the world. Idk why we are pretending that quality is indicative of boxoffice. Interest is indicative of box office. It's clear there is an interest difference domestically vs internationally.
 
它在世界其他地方也沒有差評啊。我不知道為什么我們要假裝電影質(zhì)量能決定票房。觀影興趣才能決定票房。很明顯，這部電影在美國國內(nèi)和海外的受歡迎程度存在差異。
 
Iagp
likes: 16
It doesn't? Just in Europe we have 44 countries, do you know if the reviews are not bad in all of them?
 
沒有？光是歐洲就有44個國家，你確定所有國家的評價都不差嗎？
 
GarlVinland4Astrea
likes: 1
Okay then show that it on the whole has bad reviews in other countries.
 
行啊，那你倒是拿出證據(jù)，證明它在其他國家收到的普遍是差評。
 
Fickle_Load2129
likes: 2
You can easily look up the reviews for different countries its not hard to do. Superman is liked by people who've seen it at least in Western Europe which is by far the most important European market anyway. There just wasn't any buzz around the movie in Europe Idk why probably a bad marketing strategy.
 
想查不同國家的影評很容易，根本不難。至少在西歐（歐洲最重要的市場），看過《超人》的人都挺喜歡的。不知道為什么，這部電影在歐洲就是沒什么熱度，可能是營銷策略太差了吧。
 
LazyBuoyyyy
likes: 8
While he is wrong, audience reception isn’t great in China. On their IMDB, it is barely touching 7. Much less than competition F1 and Rebirth. The reception isn’t strong everywhere.
 
雖然他說的不對，但這部電影在中國的觀眾口碑確實不怎么樣。在他們的“IMDB”（指豆瓣）上，評分勉強到7分，遠低于同期的《F1》和《重生》。觀眾反響并非在所有地方都很好。
 
Both-Manufacturer419
likes: 4
In China most people think Superman is too weak, most people prefer Superman Man of Steel because Henry Calvi is cool
 
在中國，大多數(shù)人覺得這個超人太弱了，大家更喜歡《超人：鋼鐵之軀》，因為亨利·卡維爾很酷。
 
LackingStory
likes: 10
For comparison: The Batman made 24M, but Guardians3 opened with 27M and made 86M total in China.
 
拿來對比一下：《新蝙蝠俠》在中國票房是2400萬美元，但《銀河護衛(wèi)隊3》開畫就有2700萬美元，最終總票房8600萬美元。
 
CanadianGroose
likes: 2
A lot has changed in 3 years. Hollywood needs to adjust their expectations when it comes to the Chinese market.
 
三年間變化太大了。好萊塢需要調(diào)整他們對中國市場的預(yù)期了。
 
eBICgamer2010
likes: 147
10M final projected gross would be 6 million less than Thunderbolts:
 
最終預(yù)測總票房1000萬美元，這可比《雷霆特工隊》還少600萬呢：
 
bluequarz
likes: 74
Superman is a top 3 DC character, Thunderbolts is a team up of side and tv characters. A DC movie full of characters the rank of Thunderbolts would have prob done almost 200m less than Thunderbolts at the box office .
Also Superman's marketing was 100m more than Thunderbolts reportedly.  (100m vs 200m) . If Superman fails to cross 600m then it won't cover both its production budget and its marketing through theatrical grosses no matter what WB is putting out to the press to save face.
 
超人是DC排名前三的角色，《雷霆特工隊》則是一群配角和電視劇角色的組合。一部由《雷霆特工隊》這種級別角色組成的DC電影，票房可能要比《雷霆特工隊》本片還低近2億美元。
而且，據(jù)報道《超人》的營銷費用比《雷霆特工隊》高了1億美元（2億對1億）。如果《超人》全球票房過不了6億美元，那么無論華納為了面子向媒體放出什么消息，它都無法通過院線收入覆蓋制作和營銷兩項成本。
 
SirFireHydrant
likes: 72
Superman's best case scenario is being barely profitable. Not something I'd be keen to boast about.
 
《超人》最好的情況也就是勉強盈利。這可不是什么值得我拿出來吹噓的事。
 
PaperGod101
likes: 35
All this smack talk only for Superman to make less than Ant-Man 2.
 
吹了半天，結(jié)果《超人》票房還不如《蟻人2》。
 
darthyogi
likes: 15
“It’s Clobberin Time” (Superman is being clobbered) by Jurrasic World and F4)
 
“是時候大干一場了！”（然后超人被《侏羅紀世界》和《神奇四俠》暴揍）
 
PaperGod101
likes: 2
And F1
 
還有《F1》。
 
Takemyfishplease
likes: 39
Yes, when rebooting a failed universe with one of the most hyped directors/leaders of the genre ‘barely profitable’ will sure show them.
 
是啊，用一位業(yè)內(nèi)最受熱捧的導(dǎo)演/領(lǐng)袖來重啟一個失敗的宇宙，結(jié)果只是“勉強盈利”，這可真能“給他們點顏色看看”呢。
 
Backhandslap88
likes: 48
Gloating about MAYBE being BARELY profitable lol.
 
居然在為“可能”“勉強”盈利而沾沾自喜，笑死。
 
Fire_Otter
likes: 32
How is Superman going to be profitable? they went above and beyond on marketing
The 2.5x rule of thumb is no good for this film
$225 million budget
$200 million marketing
The movie is looking to finish below $600 million. The math ain’t mathing.
 
《超人》怎么可能盈利？他們在營銷上可是下了血本。
2.5倍票房回本的經(jīng)驗法則對這部電影不適用。
預(yù)算2.25億美元
營銷2億美元
電影最終票房看起來會低于6億美元。這筆賬怎么算都算不平。
 
Fun-Maintenance1217
likes: 67
The rollercoaster of following this subs' predictions, results and opinions on Supermans BO has been more entertaining than any film at all this year
 
關(guān)注這個論壇里關(guān)于《超人》票房的各種預(yù)測、結(jié)果和觀點，這過程簡直像坐過山車，比今年任何一部電影都有意思。
 
ILoveRegenHealth
likes: 38
Last time I felt this rollercoaster was Dial of Destiny. We all thought "No way it goes under $600M. $650M is the floor, right? Right? This is Indiana Jones after all."
Then it goes on to do $387M and not even touch $400M lol
 
上一次我有這種坐過山車的感覺還是《奪寶奇兵：命運轉(zhuǎn)盤》。我們當(dāng)時都覺得“票房不可能低于6億吧。6.5億是底線，對吧？對吧？這畢竟是印第安納·瓊斯啊?！?br /> 結(jié)果它最后只拿了3.87億美元，連4億的邊都沒摸到，笑死。
 
based_mafty
likes: 18
The marvels was even funnier. Everyone is predicting 600M as the floor. No way a sequel to billion dollar movie gonna bomb that bad.
Barely pass 200m. Nobody even the hater predict is gonna bomb that bad.
 
《驚奇隊長2》那次更有趣。所有人都預(yù)測6億美元是票房底線。一部十億票房電影的續(xù)集不可能撲得那么慘吧。
結(jié)果勉強過了2億。連黑子都沒想到會撲得那么慘。
 
NobodyTellPoeDameron
likes: 2
The China Box Office numbers that were promised!
 
預(yù)言中的中國票房數(shù)字來了！
 
PhotographGrand5730
likes: 108
I am waiting for luiz in twitter to frx this outcome as success
 
我正等著推特上的Luiz把這個結(jié)果包裝成一次成功呢。
 
AGOTFAN
likes: 43
He absolutely will.
 
他絕對會這么干的。
 
Lincolnruin
likes: 39
This is too bad even for him.
 
這票房也太差了，連他都洗不動了。
 
nnooaa_lev
likes: 10
I can't with this guy. He's so biased
Like I don't get cause we'll see the true numbers at the end of Superman run anyway
 
我真受不了這家伙了，他的偏見太重了。
我就不明白了，反正等《超人》下映后我們總會看到真實的數(shù)字，他現(xiàn)在這么做有什么意義。
 
ZookeepergameOdd6209
likes: 27
Is he on WB payroll? If not that's sad lol.
 
他是華納發(fā)薪水的員工嗎？如果不是，那可太可悲了，笑死。
 
Khalsleezy
likes: 42
It's honestly not just WB. I think people were saying he lied about Cap 4's tracking in China. I think he's just an overly enthusiastic fanboy. But when tracking the Boxoffice, that should be left at the door and facts should be the only thing to go by.
 
老實說，他不止是華納的吹鼓手。我記得有人說他對《美國隊長4》在中國的票房追蹤數(shù)據(jù)也撒了謊。我覺得他就是一個過于狂熱的粉絲。但做票房追蹤分析，就應(yīng)該把粉絲心態(tài)放一邊，只依據(jù)事實說話。
 
VikusVidz
likes: 86
Heatwave in China atm.....
Seriously tho, they gonna have study sessions of this film and release when it comes to gaslighting whole populations on why this film didn't do well.
 
“中國現(xiàn)在正經(jīng)歷熱浪……”
不過說真的，他們將來肯定會把這部電影當(dāng)成研究案例，學(xué)習(xí)當(dāng)電影票房不佳時，如何顛倒黑白，給全體民眾洗腦找借口。
 
ILoveRegenHealth
likes: 63
lMao, is heatwave going to be the new Keaton walk-ups
 
笑死，“熱浪”是要成為下一個“基頓幽靈場”嗎？（譯注：“基頓幽靈場”是《莫比亞斯》票房慘敗時的梗，調(diào)侃電影靠不存在的觀眾救場。）
 
paul__k
likes: 17
Seems like the entire world except for the US is currently experiencing a heatwave. Except, it's been raining here all weekend, and neither the Saturday nor Sunday evening showings of the film sold out.
 
看來除了美國，全世界都在經(jīng)歷熱浪。然而，我這里整個周末都在下雨，結(jié)果周六和周日晚上的場次都沒賣完。
 
cummradenut
likes: 29
Maybe China has a tariff on Superman movies.
 
也許中國對超人電影征收了特別關(guān)稅。
 
Harbournessrage
likes: 10
Gaslighting has already started.
 
洗腦已經(jīng)開始了。
 
LightningZERO
likes: 11
Lol I noticed the heatwave explanation in many international threads. I hope it catches on as the next meme.
 
哈哈，我注意到在很多國際討論串里都有“熱浪”這個解釋。希望它能成為下一個流行梗。
 
igloofu
likes: 7
Yet it was beat by F1 and JW.
 
然而它還是被《F1》和《侏羅紀世界》打敗了。
 
SirFireHydrant
likes: 13
Wasn't the projection for lifetime gross $14m as recently as yesterday? What happened?
 
就在昨天，最終總票房的預(yù)測不還是1400萬美元嗎？發(fā)生什么了？
 
Local_Diet_7813
likes: 35
Crashes and burned
 
崩盤了。
 
Firefox72
likes: 9
Maoyan and Tao have not upxed their official projections yet as its only 7:30PM.
Projections usualy get upxed after 10PM when the day is closer to the end.
For now its still $11-15M at least officialy. We'l see how that changes later today.
 
現(xiàn)在才晚上7點半，貓眼和淘票票還沒更新他們的官方預(yù)測。
預(yù)測通常要等到晚上10點后，當(dāng)天快結(jié)束時才會更新。
目前官方的預(yù)測至少還是1100-1500萬美元。我們看看今天晚些時候會有什么變化。
 
cummradenut
likes: 18
Tbh the White House tweeting out an image of the Superman poster with Trump’s face probably caused the international market to say “fuck this movie” lMao
Superman already doesn’t play great outside of the US but that picture went viral and there’s lots of anti-American sentiment at the moment, especially in China and the EU.
 
老實說，白宮發(fā)了那張把超人海報P成特朗普臉的推文，可能直接導(dǎo)致國際市場大罵“去他媽的這電影吧”，笑死。
超人這個角色在美國以外本來就不太吃香，結(jié)果那張圖還病毒式傳播，加上現(xiàn)在到處都是反美情緒，尤其是在中國和歐盟。
 
LackingStory
likes: 4
That would be funny, but is there any evidence this is what happened?
 
這說法挺有意思，但有證據(jù)表明是這樣嗎？
 
Posavec235
likes: 3
Ironic since the MAGA claimed for months that Superman will be an anti-Trump movie, and international audience will now associate Superman with Trump thanks to the White House tweet.
 
真諷刺，MAGA幾個月來一直聲稱《超人》會是一部反特朗普的電影，結(jié)果現(xiàn)在因為白宮那條推文，國際觀眾反而會把超人和特朗普聯(lián)系在一起了。
 
Jolly_Carpenter_6548
likes: 24
Honestly considering china loves monsters and action , I think they just don't like the concept of American superman
 
老實說，考慮到中國觀眾喜歡怪獸和動作片，我覺得他們就是不喜歡“美國超人”這個概念。
 
StratifiedBuffalo
likes: 43
There is a heatwave in all cinemas showing Superman atm (not Jurassic tho) /s
 
目前所有放映《超人》的電影院都遇到了熱浪（但放《侏羅紀》的就沒事）/s
 
paradox1920
likes: 6
I don’t know… they like Captain America? It’s even on the name. Superman to me though is more anti that and trying to represent the more decent part of people in general in the world rather than being particularly from one nation. Although given current circumstances with the government in USA, I could see how an icon character like that might not bode well for some overseas right now even though I believe the new movie still maintains what I said before. In any case, right now I can only hope for a solid win for Supes overall and then see what happens after all is said and done with this movie. I still think this film is the start of a reboot and building up from here. Many factors to consider when it comes to the performance of this if you ask me.
 
我不好說……他們不是喜歡美國隊長嗎？名字里都帶著“美國”呢。不過對我來說，超人更像是反對國家主義的，他試圖代表的是全世界人民更正直的那一面，而不是特別來自某個國家。當(dāng)然，鑒于美國政府目前的狀況，我能理解這樣一個標(biāo)志性人物可能在海外不太討喜，盡管我相信新電影仍然保持了我之前說的內(nèi)核。無論如何，現(xiàn)在我只希望超人總體上能取得一個穩(wěn)固的勝利，然后再看這部電影塵埃落定后會怎樣。我仍然認為這部電影是重啟的開始，是未來發(fā)展的基石。要我說，影響這部電影表現(xiàn)的因素太多了。
 
SoapyDoodle
likes: 7
It’s no longer aspirational to be an American, I don’t understand why anyone is surprised by this.
 
“成為一個美國人”這件事已經(jīng)不再令人向往了，我不明白為什么還會有人對此感到驚訝。
 
Material_Magazine989
likes: 10
It's a movie about a country invading another country and third parties interfering. The appeal wasn't there.
 
這是一部關(guān)于一個國家入侵另一個國家，然后第三方勢力介入的電影。吸引力不足。
 
MaintenanceFar4207
likes: 11
Man this is not getting to 700M due to the modest to average BO internationally.
 
兄弟，由于海外票房表現(xiàn)平平，這片子到不了7億美元了。
 
Local_Diet_7813
likes: 32
600 is lucky!
You will need 350 dom and 250 international for that
And 350 dom isn’t locked
 
能有6億都算幸運了！
要達到6億，你需要3.5億北美票房和2.5億海外票房。
但現(xiàn)在3.5億的北美票房也根本沒譜。
 
kingofstormandfire
likes: 8
It might not even make 600M depending on the OS drop next week.
 
看下周海外市場的跌幅，這電影甚至可能連6億美元都到不了。
 
LazyBuoyyyy
likes: 5
How is a tentpole superhero blockbuster (which is actually good) is making the same money as random Indian movie in China ? What is happening?
 
一部（其實還不錯的）臺柱級超級英雄大片，怎么在中國賺的錢和隨便一部印度電影差不多？這到底是怎么了？
 
jacktuar
likes: 1
Superman is tentpole in America but it's no longer as big a  thing anywhere else.
 
超人在美國是臺柱子，但在其他地方早就不算什么大IP了。
 
Julio-C-Castro
likes: 15
As someone who’s excited to see this film, I share the same sentiment others do about why this film isn’t doing as well as it could. Superman is predominantly a very American symbol. Right now, America isn’t trying to be friendly with China with all the trade wars conversation. Could it be a contributing factor? Maybe it is for some. I wish Superman a nice run in the box office but realistically, it’s not looking great internationally.
 
作為一個很期待看這部電影的人，我同意其他人關(guān)于電影票房不佳原因的看法。超人主要是一個非常美國的象征。而眼下，伴隨著貿(mào)易戰(zhàn)的論調(diào)，美國并沒有在努力與中國交好。這會是一個影響因素嗎？可能對一些人來說是。我希望《超人》票房能有好成績，但現(xiàn)實地說，它的國際前景不容樂觀。
 
KakkaKarrotKake007
likes: 16
It might be a factor for "some" but I imagine it's on a fairly insignificant level
Maybe more in China but people blaming it underperforming in Europe because of Anti-America sentiment seems like copium, maybe what they showed in trailers just didn't appeal to people? Maybe Superman in general just isn't appealing to outside of America anymore? There's plenty of people who have seen the movie that don't like it's humor or tone or whatever else
Those seem much more likely scenarios tbh
 
這可能對“一些人”來說是個因素，但我認為影響微乎其微。
也許在中國影響大一些，但把歐洲票房不佳歸咎于反美情緒，感覺像是在找借口自我安慰?；蛟S是預(yù)告片展示的內(nèi)容沒吸引到人？或許是超人這個角色本身在美國以外已經(jīng)沒有吸引力了？還有很多看過電影的人不喜歡它的幽默、基調(diào)或者其他方面。
老實說，這些看起來是可能性大得多的原因。
 
Julio-C-Castro
likes: -2
You could be right that it just doesn’t “click” with the international audience due to its humor. But as I said, in relation to China, the current political climate between the US and China could be one reason it’s also not making waves in China. I’ve said it before on other subs about how I want the big three(JW, Superman, F4) this summer to do well but I do hold it true to all movies as well. Movies do well, we all win. There’s something for everybody and I look very much for to it all!
 
你可能是對的，因為幽默感的問題，它就是沒能和國際觀眾產(chǎn)生共鳴。但就像我說的，就中國而言，當(dāng)前中美之間的政治氣候也可能是它在中國沒能掀起波瀾的原因之一。我之前在其他論壇也說過，我希望今年夏天的三巨頭（《侏羅紀世界》、《超人》、《神奇四俠》）都能有好成績，而且我對所有電影都抱有這種期望。電影表現(xiàn)好，我們大家都是贏家?？傆羞m合每個人的東西，我非常期待這一切！
 
theghostofmanila
likes: 14
Most probably. And if you like Gunn's style and approach it with the mindset of a 12-year-old, you’ll probably enjoy it. But if you’re more of a moviegoer who appreciates coherent storytelling, manage your expectations.
 
很可能。如果你喜歡詹姆斯·古恩的風(fēng)格，并用一個12歲孩子的心態(tài)去看，你大概會喜歡它。但如果你是那種更欣賞連貫敘事的影迷，那最好還是管理一下你的期望。
 
sharkflood
likes: -7
Gunn is one of the best directors alive and this film is better than any of the Snyder hero films
I think geopolitics is way more important here than a lot of you guys wanna admit
 
古恩是在世最優(yōu)秀的導(dǎo)演之一，這部電影比任何一部施耐德的英雄電影都好。
我認為地緣政治在這里的重要性遠比你們很多人愿意承認的要大。
 
theghostofmanila
likes: 4
Calling Gunn “one of the best directors alive” is blind praise, not fact. And bringing up Snyder when no one even mentioned him, like he’s living rent free in your head, is... something.
He’s good, sure. I liked the GotG trilogy. But that doesn’t automatically mean Superman works for everyone, especially outside the US. Geopolitics always plays a role in international box office, that’s true. But if you think global audiences are skipping the film just because of trade wars and not because of the overly American tone, weak rollout, poorly written scxt, or maybe even loyalty to earlier Superman versions (since you seem to want Snyder included in everything), then that’s a reach.
Sometimes a movie just doesn’t land the way the studio hoped. That’s not geopolitics. That’s market response.
 
稱古恩為“在世最優(yōu)秀的導(dǎo)演之一”是盲目吹捧，不是事實。而且在沒人提施耐德的時候把他扯進來，就好像他一直在你腦子里揮之不去似的……真有意思。
他是不錯，當(dāng)然。我喜歡《銀河護衛(wèi)隊》三部曲。但這不代表《超人》就適合所有人，尤其是在美國以外。地緣政治確實總在國際票房中扮演角色。但如果你認為全球觀眾不看這部電影只是因為貿(mào)易戰(zhàn)，而不是因為那過于“美國”的調(diào)性、糟糕的宣發(fā)、寫得差的劇本，或者甚至是（既然你好像什么都想扯上施耐德）對早期超人版本的忠誠，那就太牽強了。
有時候一部電影就是沒能達到片方的預(yù)期效果。那不是地緣政治，那是市場反應(yīng)。
 
_WonderWhy_
likes: 10
Story is not interesting, is why it didn't do well. more than it have anything to do with symbol.
In my country people didn't go see it because they didn't find any of the trailer interesting, In contrast to MoS many years ago, where it was success in my country simply because it show action+alien invasion sci-fi vibe.
 
故事沒意思，才是它票房不佳的原因，這比它跟什么象征符號有關(guān)更重要。
在我們國家，人們不去看是因為他們覺得預(yù)告片毫無吸引力。相比之下，多年前的《超人：鋼鐵之軀》在我們國家很成功，純粹因為它展現(xiàn)了動作+外星人入侵的科幻氛圍。
 
gorays21
likes: 2
Really curious on how Doomsday does in China.
 
真的很好奇《毀滅日》在中國的表現(xiàn)會如何。
 
TigerGroundbreaking
likes: 4
It will do well
 
它會表現(xiàn)得很好的。
 
ExternalSeat
likes: 2
Superman is heavily American coded (especially this run). At a time where the American brand has been tarnished abroad like it hasn't been since the  Vietnam War (especially in China), it is no wonder that this film is flopping internationally.
Also China is developing its own domestic film industry that is rising in quality and prestige.
 
超人這個角色帶有濃重的美國色彩（尤其是這一次）。在一個“美國”這個品牌在海外的聲譽自越戰(zhàn)以來從未如此受損的時代（尤其是在中國），這部電影在國際上撲街也就不足為奇了。
此外，中國正在發(fā)展自己的國產(chǎn)電影產(chǎn)業(yè)，質(zhì)量和聲望都在上升。
 
Samhunt909
likes: -1
I hope this is a joke
 
我希望這是個玩笑。
 
ExternalSeat
likes: 1
Nope. Superman very much is deeply associated with "Brand America" and this version very much builds on that allegory.
As such, it is impacted by the USA brand. That does impact its international box office significantly.
 
并不是。超人確實與“美國品牌”緊密相連，而這個版本更是強化了這一寓言。
因此，它受到了美國品牌聲譽的影響。這確實極大地影響了它的國際票房。
 
Samhunt909
likes: -1
Yeah there’s America hatred so much Hollywood movies like Jurassic, f1, lilo are performing like crap. This is also rest of the world won’t buyijng any us products right?
 
是啊，對美國的仇恨如此之深，以至于《侏羅紀》、《F1》、《星際寶貝》這些好萊塢電影都表現(xiàn)得像坨屎一樣。世界其他地方也肯定不買任何美國產(chǎn)品了，對吧？
 
chengxiufan
likes: 1
you are seriously comparing F1, where happened almost entirely outside of US, JW , a movie about evil american steal in latin america, and Superman, a movie about how american icon saved the world?
 
你居然拿這幾部電影來比？《F1》的故事幾乎完全發(fā)生在美國之外；《侏羅紀世界》講的是邪惡美國人在拉丁美洲偷東西；而《超人》講的是一個美國偶像如何拯救世界。這能一樣嗎？
 
tuepm
likes: 2
The reason this movie isn't doing well internationally is because Superman is, at it's core, American propaganda. Right now the rest of the world isn't in the mood to watch pro-American propaganda. Combine that with the fact that Republicans in the US look at Lex Luther and see themselves and you have the recipe for a really good movie not doing as well as it might have done otherwise.
 
這部電影在國際上表現(xiàn)不佳，是因為《超人》的核心就是美國的宣傳工具。而現(xiàn)在，世界其他地方?jīng)]心情看親美的宣傳。再加上美國的共和黨人看著萊克斯·盧瑟就像看到了他們自己，這些因素加起來，就導(dǎo)致了一部本可以非常好的電影，卻沒有取得它本應(yīng)有的成績。
 
darktower41
likes: 2
American loves fast foods
Chinese love healthy foods.
 
美國人愛吃快餐，中國人愛吃健康食品。
 
bluzfan99
likes: 2
I missed the first 10 minutes of the movie because I couldn't find the cinema in time. Perhaps I'll go a 2nd time. Might just inflate the numbers by 0.001%. If Superman is tanking like this, I don't even want to imagine what might happen with Supergirl
 
我因為沒及時找到電影院，錯過了電影的前10分鐘。也許我會去二刷。這樣大概能把票房數(shù)字提高0.001%吧。如果《超人》都撲成這樣，我簡直不敢想《女超人》會怎么樣。
 
_WonderWhy_
likes: 0
tbh, Supergirl have more change on international market, she doesn't have movie before, and that white Blonde girl lead actress is still famous look outside America.
I think the reason this Superman isn't do well because the story is nothing interesting, take MoS, people love it because it a new approach to Superman story with sci-fi alien invasion action.
 
說實話，女超人在國際市場上的機會可能更大。她之前沒有自己的電影，而且那個金發(fā)白膚女主角在美國以外也算是討喜的長相。
我覺得這次的《超人》表現(xiàn)不佳，就是因為故事沒意思。拿《鋼鐵之軀》來說，大家喜歡它，是因為它用科幻外星人入侵的動作片方式，對超人故事做出了新的詮釋。
 
trisnikk
likes: 1
yall really think china wants to watch the quintessential movie about america?
 
你們真覺得中國想看一部關(guān)于美國的經(jīng)典樣板戲嗎？
 
DrewWho30
likes: 1
The fact this is doing less than brave new world is nuts.
 
它票房比《美麗新世界》（指《美國隊長4》）還低，這太瘋狂了。
 
bossholmes
likes: -2
Tbf it’s a pretty good movie - though the Chinese audience as a whole don’t really care for Hollywood films the same way they did.
 
說句公道話，這電影挺不錯的——盡管中國觀眾整體上已經(jīng)不像以前那樣待見好萊塢電影了。
 
igloofu
likes: 10
Yet, F1 and JW are doing just fine (and even though they have been out for weeks, are higher than Superman atm).
 
然而，《F1》和《侏羅紀世界》表現(xiàn)得就很好（而且盡管它們已經(jīng)上映幾周了，目前的票房仍然比《超人》高）。
 
KhaLe18
likes: 1
While I agree with your point, JW is looking at a 50% or so drop from Dominion. And a Superman movie making more than Jurassic in China was never going to happen
 
雖然我同意你的觀點，但《侏羅紀世界》的票房比前作《侏羅紀世界3》跌了大約50%。而且，一部超人電影想在中國超過侏羅紀系列的票房，這本來就是不可能發(fā)生的事。
 
hiiloovethis
likes: -52
Not good here. But let wom kick in europe and other part of asia. It is still not over. We still have domestic 350 locked.
 
這里（指中國市場）是不好。但是可以讓口碑在歐洲和亞洲其他地區(qū)發(fā)酵。一切還沒結(jié)束。我們北美3.5億的票房還是穩(wěn)的。
 
Local_Diet_7813
likes: 40
350 is in no way locked. It’s not overperforming the weekend estimates as we speak
 
3.5億根本就沒穩(wěn)。就目前來看，它的周末票房并沒有超出預(yù)期。
 
Icy_Smoke_733
likes: 30
Does "locked" mean something else to you? $350 million DOM is definitely *not* guaranteed.
Let's wait for the 2nd week drop. For all you know, it could be front-loaded.
 
“穩(wěn)了”這個詞對你來說是不是有別的意思？3.5億美元的北美票房絕對*不*是板上釘釘?shù)氖隆?br /> 咱們還是等第二周的跌幅出來再說吧。誰知道呢，它很可能是一部首周票房占比過高的電影。
 
SirFireHydrant
likes: 30
$350m is absolutely not locked domestically.
And there's no chance of WoM kicking in in Europe and Asia. Reception is dead there. It's not gonna bounce back from these numbers.
 
3.5億北美票房絕對沒穩(wěn)。
而且口碑也不可能在歐洲和亞洲發(fā)酵了，那里的反響已經(jīng)涼透了。票房不可能從現(xiàn)在的數(shù)字反彈回來的。
 
Lincolnruin
likes: 27
WoM is awful in Europe.
 
口碑在歐洲糟透了。
 
Backhandslap88
likes: 18
It’s not going to 3X with an A- Cinemascore, and another Superhero movie coming in 2 weeks.
$300M is your target lol.
 
在A-的CinemaScore評分下，而且兩周后還有另一部超英電影上映，它的票房是不可能達到首周末票房3倍的。
3億美元才是你的目標(biāo)，笑死。
 
Batfleck666
likes: 17
The only thing that's locked is this making less than Man of Steel.
 
唯一“穩(wěn)”了的，就是它的票房會比《超人：鋼鐵之軀》低。
 
WolfgangIsHot
likes: 2
Well...
French 1st week of MoS was 1.05 adm.
Superman is projected to make **0.62.**
Joker 2 made 0.60.
Venom 3 made 0.73.
Ouch.
 
這么說吧……
《鋼鐵之軀》在法國首周觀影人次是105萬。
《超人》預(yù)計是**62萬**。
《小丑2》是60萬。
《毒液3》是73萬。
哎呀呀。